Gina Khan lives in Birmingham's Ward End. She is a British Muslim and
has spoken out in the past about the problems she and her community face from
extreme Islamists. Described as "a very brave woman" in an article for the
London Times, Gina - in a four part exclusive interview given to the
Westminster Journal - here, in part four, continues to relate her experience as
a British Muslim and calls out, especially to the British Government, for help
in solving the Islamist problem the West is now experiencing from within.
Q: Who in particular is exploiting the weaknesses of Britain?
MCB spokesman Inayat Bunglawala is a good example of what I mean by the
extreme version of Islam. He is always playing down the real threat. People
like Bunglawala have read the same books as me and understands Jihad like most
Muslims do. In number the Islamists like
him may be a minority, but the influence they represent is powerful because
they use historical edicts in the Quran to mobilise the masses. It is up to Muslims
to reject and lead the way by rejecting this modern Jihad and rejecting
backward practices.
Why oh why do TV stations allow these men on their shows to talk about
us Muslims? They do not represent us - they enslave us with a backward
mentality.
We are free agents we didn't need backward-thinking Muslims representing
us.
It's proved counter-productive. They do not represent plural Islam. They
have an issue with gays, with the Jewish, with liberal Britain. The government
has been taking advice from the wrong people for the last 10 years. That is
obvious.
Q: Who do you blame?
I blame the government of this country for the rise in Islamism. They were
too slow while Islamists leaped ahead in order to turn British Muslims into
Islamists. Europe and America have been given the wrong advice for the last 10
years too. If the best they can come up with to win the hearts and minds of
people is a Bunglawala or Tariq Ramadan - who isn't even a citizen of this
country - then we're in big trouble.
Why the government appeases Islamists and engages with men who advocate
a backward Islam beggars belief. The government needs to create space for
reformists and secular Muslims to lead debates - to push away the Bunglawalas
who, for example, tried to shut down the debate on the veil, and believes Osama
Bin Laden is a 'freedom fighter'. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Q: It's not a battle between men and women amongst the British Muslim
community?
No. Just recently, modern British Muslim men pointed out to me that they
are just as alarmed when they see an increasing number of Muslims (British
Pakistani women) adopting the full veil. The same happens to all of us - you
end up just staring at them, on the Ladypool road, Stratford road In
Birmingham, Alum Rock Rd etc
British Pakistani Muslim women have steadily shrugged off the beautiful
chadors and head scarves full of vibrant colours that have always reflected the
Indian or Pakistani culture and are turning to morbid colours of black. I
personally call this revival of desert Islam. It really is beginning to look
and feel like a cult; a political statement and a sign of women participating
in their own oppression believing Allah ordained it. What's wrong with the
Pakistani outfits?? It didn't happen at this rate in Pakistan until the media
showed us the veiled women with sticks demonstrating outside the Red Mosque.
Such an event could happen here - we may have democracy here but that isn't
stopping Islamists from demanding Sharia law or special treatment in schools,
councils or in the public sphere just because they are Muslims.
Dr Naseem Nawaz - a member of Hibz ut Tahrir - is a good example of a
woman who wishes to live under the raw power of Islamists, dreaming of a
revived Calpihate.
Men look at these people as though they are weird as well but they
believe they are superior. There are women totally subjugated in some Islamic
states forced to wear the veil, that's a different issue. The veil causes
segregation in the West and these women know it.
Q: Is the area becoming a no-go area for non-Muslims?
It is becoming a no go area in some parts of Birmingham. Non Muslims are
becoming suspicious and uneasy as are secular Muslims. Why should Rev Ali (the
Bishop of Rochester, pictured) be accused of racism when he is actually
speaking the truth? Trevor Philips was spot on too - non Muslims are leaving
these areas because Muslim leaders have allowed our areas to turn into Muslim ghettos.
Hazel Blears and William Hague say they don't recognise these areas?
Well they only need to visit and see. I have respect for Blears and Hague and
I'd like to put them right. It's one thing trying to be diplomatic , it's
another if you don't face up to a serious ideology that is aiming to mobilise
the Muslim community and the next generation. No other religious group has
asked for special demands. Who is instigating this special need for Muslims and
Islam? Not Muslims like me or people I know.
So many British people from nearly every religion and race have said to
me that something is going on but they just can't put their finger on it. I
know exactly what they mean.
Q: So British mainstream politicians are missing the point here?
They have missed the point for the last 40 years.
Mr Brown, Mr Cameron should pay close attention next time they want to
visit a Muslim community like mine. They could start counting the mosques
springing up like mushrooms and the lack of resources for the youth in the
community, especially for Muslim Girls. They should introduce a law prohibiting
total square metres of one religion's buildings exceeding a certain amount in a
given area per capita. Next time when they are up here they could visit
bookshops and run-down Islamic schools. They have abandoned these communities.
Polygamy is more common than the British realize. Young teenage forced
marriages and honour killings have escalated.
So why was our plight ignored and why the Islamists appeased? I could
take them to some really nice mainstream English, Irish, Indian, Jamaican, Sikh
and 'Modern' Muslims who sense and fear this rise of Islamism but because Britain
is a civilised, tolerant society they remain silent. Most fear being called
Islamophobic or racist. The public needs educating. As one decent Indian family
told me, Islamists were trying to buy a pub in Hodge Hill to turn into yet
another Islamic centre.
There are not many Muslims in Hodge Hill but this is how the Islamists
operate. People in Hodge Hill are going to either get angry and move out or worry
about their young becoming converted.
Muslims and non Muslims at grassroots level know something isn't right. They
should talk to people, not just representatives or leaders. I am not
scaremongering.
If you integrate you get to hear all sides like I have. Anyway I was in
the minority who was standing up to radicals 20 years ago, no-one would listen
to me then either. I feel the tide is turning - the Islamists have gone too far
too soon. Britain is waking up and will show the world how to deal with these
people.
Britain's political leaders have ignored the plight of Muslim women,
although every day now the media is reporting honour killings, forced marriages
and even the BBC Asian network debated polygamy recently. The silent taboos are
being broken.
The forced marriage unit run by the foreign office will tell you that (although
our hero is a British Sikh woman Jaswinder Sanghera, who had raised the issues
of honour killing and forced marriages) they established the crimes against
Muslim women are amongst the highest in the Pakistani communities in Britain. Take
a look at Britain's most wanted list and a shocking amount of those wanted are
Muslims. Young British Asian girls are still taken out of school and taken back
to South Asia, denied a British Education
and freedom of choice.
My God, it was the British themselves who passed the Marriage Act
setting the minimum age to 14 for girls and 18 for boys in 1872 during the
British Raj. They were themselves shocked at the practice of child bride
marriages then. Over a century and half later and regardless of the abolition
of slavery we didn't get very far did we?
Thank God for Jaswinder Sanghera and other activists like Dr Shazia
Sovaisi.
Q: And meanwhile unelected groups are setting the local agenda?
A union member, a British Muslim mother, emailed me the 'manifesto for
schools' that the MCB printed. She, as well as her Muslim female students, were
stunned and opposed the manifesto. Others echo the same concern. They should
read the emails I get.
I went to school in Britain too, my parents were Muslims and desired no
special treatment for me at school - thank God. My faith was my business,
between me and God, that if I wanted to fast, I didn't expect every one else to
put up with my whims, we never asked for special treatments above everyone
else. But the Islamicization of this country is headed by men like the MCB and
their focus is on women's status as they perceive it and British Muslim children's
education as they want it.
They have been manipulating government bodies and want to influence foreign
policies. Hello?? Are we all living in
the same country or not? Gender apartheid printed on an MCB letterhead isn't
going to stop the young from falling in love or marrying non Muslims. Human
beings are human beings. Teenagers will be teenagers. I'm sick of these
ringleaders of Islam forcing their backward anti-Jewish, anti- gay, anti-
women, anti- ex Muslims ideologies down our throats. Who gave them- these
unelected nobodies - the right?
They are not Gods ambassadors, God doesn't need any. They have no right
whatsoever to tell Muslims how to live in Britain.
They have to stop forcing the hand of God on us all and reject the
writings of Maududi and Syed Qutb. They need to stop inflicting one brand of
Islam on us all. They politicized young Muslims the wrong way. The Middle East
are not what every Muslim worries about. The situation in Britain has to be
addressed.
Q: You say the MCB and the other self-elected Islamist groupings are
affecting your human rights?
The declaration of Human rights in 1948 is now being used by Jihadists.
We never got a look in as abused Asian Muslim women. The defenders of freedom
are letting the people of this country down. There are 52 Muslim countries
around the world. If you don't like the West and their liberal way of life no
one is stopping an Islamist from leaving the country on a one way ticket.
The likes of Dr Bari - the MCB leader - should be more concerned about
his own people and their tragedies in Bangladesh than whether the British
should adapt to arranged marriages. He's really getting peoples backs up. He
has no right to put down the western woman or compare her to the pious Muslim
woman, there is no such thing as the perfect religion or perfect human being.
And they have no right to dominate and stress our status in British Islam.
Islam is not as rigid as they would want it to be because it is still down to
Muslims making their own choices, we are free agents. There's real inadequacy
shining through these men in their actions and their ideology.
Another big Islamist myth is that arranged marriages rarely end in
divorce. Today every other British Muslim woman I have come across is divorced
or a lone mother. The lone mother isn't in the Islamic conscience but she is in
the conscience of this great country. Sharia law defines the family structure
but is silent on the status of the lone mother. Islam nor can God protect women
from the raw power of male hierarchy exercised in Muslim communities. Arrange
marriages are the norm. What isn't normal is being forced into or being
manipulated into marriage for the sake of honour or extended family. They
pretend to be in denial about the real issues Muslim women endure in the name
of honour or because of the status they wish to keep us confined in.
They have done nothing for the emancipation of Muslim women, in fact
they advocate the opposite. They emphasize our duties not rights. Just like
Maududi, who was not a scholar - he was a journalist who engaged with Syed Qutb
in the mid 19th century. Men, who wanted Muslims to control the sexuality of
women, advocated the burkha and a revival of 7th century Islam. They welcomed
extreme Islamists from the Middle East. In so doing they fouled up. They do not
represent the majority of mainstream Muslims.
We have to protect ourselves through learning to be independent, through
education, skills, employment, housing, money for food, clothes and shelter. Where
else in the world is the lone mother protected so that she can live with
dignity? Most move out of Muslim communities that have turned into ghettos. It's
no place for a lone mother.
Islam's ambassadors and spokesmen don't protect you here just because
you're a Muslim woman. Ask the Muslim teenager who was ganged raped in a Muslim
area by Muslim men. Was Islam's ringleaders or Sharia law there to protect her
or give justice? No - only the British law and the services in place to support
her protected her. These men have no idea what they are talking about except
when it comes to reinforcing the burstable bubble that is political Islam.
Q: You believe that these organisations serve Muslim women no purpose?
Absolutely no purpose. Community
leaders are in denial about the real issues manifesting in Muslim communities
besides Jihadism. Rape, sexual harassment, forced marriages, honour killings,
polygamy, forced conversions, domestic violence, depression, drugs, gang
culture and paedophiles all exist on our streets too, in our communities. And
we remain shamefully silent. There is no such thing as a pious, true Muslim
country or community. Not in Pakistan or in 'the great republic of Iran', where
religious police force the subjugation.
No wonder Muslim women feel they need to wear the veil in Muslim
communities. We get harassed in Muslim areas. But I'm not afraid to speak the
truth now.
Public harassment is on the rise in such areas. Ask the local women. That's
what happens when communities go backwards and not forward. That is the consequence when women are denied
leadership in mosques or not given the space to have dialogue with the
government. OUR VOICES ARE DROWNED OUT BY THE ISLAMISTS.
I hope Hazel Blears succeeds in this idea to empower Muslim women
against extremists. What did Bunglawala have to say this time in response?
Instead of welcoming the idea he said the government is asking women to be
spies. With this obfuscation you can see that he is actually at war. The
thought of Muslim women being empowered and standing up to their ideology
threatens them.
I'd like to tell Bunglawala, I know who I would want outside my house
protecting me and my children against harassment, extremism or Jihadism. Not
the likes of him, who are part of the problem not the solution. If they're not
blaming the police, they're blaming the Americans or the Zionists or they latch
onto foreign policies. They never look within. They take on the mindless rhetoric
that we Muslims have lost our true path and must return to 7th century Islam.
Millions of Muslims want to live and let live and that's why we have to break
our silence.
Q: So strong women are the answer?
The empowerment of Muslim women is crucial against this backward male
dominated ideology. Any change in the thinking and behaviour of mothers has a
strong impact on children and the next generation. Benazir Bhutto is an
inspiration, even after her death, Muslim youths in colleges are signing up to
join the PPP and Muslim women and men respected her, If she can oppose this
ideology, oppose Islamists, why aren't we doing the same in Britain?
Isn't this ideology in collision with democracy?
Why are we allowing Islamists to mobilise our minds? Why are we
participating in our own oppression?
If my son hadn't been approached by radical Islamists on the streets of
Ward End and if I didn't know a British Christian woman from Birmingham whose
teenage son as converted by Salafists and then tried to kill her because she
refused to convert, I would have been ignorant too of the power of Jihadism
embedded in our communities.
Mr Bunglawala doesn't fool me. These men like Bunglawala are exactly the
kind of Islamic men than Pakistani women in Pakistan wouldn't trust or give
their vote to.
In fact Hazel Blears could be thinking of empowering non Muslim women
too. The rate of conversions is alarming. Most converts seem to be
indoctrinated with extreme Islam and political Islam. I have met British black
and white, Indian, Sikh mothers who have the same fear as I do for our growing
children. If the government continues to fail its people and the next
generation through lack of knowledge and education then we are in a lose lose
situation. The gulf they want to create will widen.
The MCB don't give a damn about the Muslims or non Muslims. They are
using their position to mobilise the masses towards political Islam.
Why? What's wrong with the British law?? It trumps their barbarity. It's
about time the voices of British Muslim women and secular and reformers were
heard.
Why doesn't the government ask British born Muslim women to advise
them?
Women like Samira Malik were on the conveyor belt towards Jihadism but
she clearly hadn't read up enough about the rewards for women jihadis, or asked
her Islamist male mentors enough questions. I hope the Samira Malik case deters
other radical females from dreaming of 'martyrdom'. According to what I have
read, women won't enjoy the bounties of heaven as much as the men will. Even in
the after life women will be treated as sub human and have to put with all the
virgins they will inherit, so say the Islamists.
Q: Where's the platform for you to promulgate your feelings and
solutions?
Peaceful mainstream British Muslims are the silent majority. We have no
platform where we can oppose the Jihadists' propaganda.
There are millions of Muslims in this country that are proud to be
British, that abhor honour killings, forced marriages, polygamy, the veil,
abhor the Islamists, abhor the suicide human bombs that Jihadism has created.
There are thousands of British Muslims who respect the Jewish people, accept
Israel as the one of the best democratic countries in the Middle East and would
never abuse let alone behead a Jew or apostle.
Contrary to interpretations, mainstream Muslims respect people of other
religions and the importance of a pluralist modern reformed Islam. We live and
let live. There are millions who supported a woman leader Benazir Bhutto as she
was the only beacon of light who could have instilled democracy in Pakistan.
The last thing modern Pakistanis want is an Islamist party running the country.
It's Islamists who discriminate or assassinate women in power as they have with
Benazir.
People like my mother respected the British education, wanted their
rights and freedoms, wanted their full humanity back. I hope Pakistanis makes
the right choice.
Q: And you, Gina. What lies ahead for you?
I plan to carry on writing and doing interviews, I plan to work as an
anti Jihad activist. I plan to challenge in any way I can the status that
Islamists have enslaved us into. I will repeat over and over that I don't
believe for one moment that the God who created me wanted me to walk out of my
front door using only half the IQ he gave me. Nor is my brain deficient and nor
are we any less human to the Muslim male.
I live in a democracy. I am lucky. I will exercise my freedom of speech
and champion democracy, oppose Jihadism and empower women to stand up for their
natural rights and full humanity. And I won't stop until the government of this
country hears the voices of women/men like me who know they are living in one
of the best democracies in the world.
No one owns Islam and the Islamists can't pressurise Muslims or non
Muslims any longer. We must break our silence. British people are the nicest,
the most tolerant and the most humane people on earth. I learnt more about
kindness, forgiveness and humanity from the English, Welsh, Jamaican, Indian, Irish,
Gays and Atheists, that no script on earth could have taught me.
We need to stop putting the country down and playing into the hands of
Islamist. There's a dangerous ideology out there that is doing everything to
cause a clash within this humane civilization. I hope to God that one day we
can all as British people oppose this ideology from the mainstream without fear
- as that is all it takes - or the future is bleak.
Staying silent just isn't an option anymore. What will we say to the
next generation, our children, their children? That we had no backbone ?
Mahatma Gandhi has quoted '' I have nothing new to teach the world.
Truth and non-violence are as old as the hills". That says it all for me.
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